coming from the government because to them it might feel like the government is picking a religion and it's not theirs. >> well, there's things we can do about that to i guess lessen that offense. we can do that in the personal life. in my family we have the menorah out through december on our cich en take. i want to teach my children about the jewish faith. >> jon: quick word to the palin kids, while i appreciate the gesture, jews don't actually just leave a menorah out for the month of december. [cheers and applause] like a knickknack in a curio case. goes in the window and only put it there for eight days. palin kids this is not a menorah. now, there's got to be someone who can defend christmas with a little more authority. over the years we've taken on the role of protecting the federal holiday of christmas. >> jon: even though it's in in any way threatened. i'll bite. tell me why this year it's especially egregious to use the phrase happy holidays. >> what is interesting this year is hanukkah is over on thursday so there are no more holidays between then and christmas day. >> jon: